tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post2954822775614327201..comments2023-10-10T04:12:46.727-07:00Comments on Idle Musings...: Need v/s Greed - the highs and lows of being an illegal train hawkerUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-20163940041241869522011-04-27T04:12:10.619-07:002011-04-27T04:12:10.619-07:00Legal bribe collection would, in no way, encroach ...Legal bribe collection would, in no way, encroach upon the rights of professional bribists. All the bribe money would be theirs to keep. Only difference would be that officer would be responsible for the people who provide bribes and listen to their complaints too. We have a similar system in place in the slums where the slum-dwellers have a local (unofficial) bribe-officer and he ensures tax-free life, ration cards, free electricity and other sops. The middle-class has no such system and legalizing bribes will create it. The govt. will have no share in the bribe pickings, just like rich film stars can get away without paying any income tax. It will be upto the bribe-officer whether to use the money for personal pleasure or use it to hire ruffians and send money higher up to ensure more sops for his customers and get a larger following. To avoid monopoly, the govt. can allocate multiple bribe-officers per area ensuring good competition. Also, the ones with the legal right to take bribes will eliminate those without the legal bribe right - something which our judiciary could not do for 60 years. The only way to fight a corrupt system is to implode it through uncontrolled growth, not by restricting it.Chimyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299674728401995496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-91741429881288474812011-04-27T04:11:45.455-07:002011-04-27T04:11:45.455-07:00This essay makes you wonder if legalizing corrupti...This essay makes you wonder if legalizing corruption will be more useful compared to cracking down on it and (re)starting license-raj. Any citizen who has gone to a govt. run institution HAS offered a bribe to get his work done speedily or without wanton delays. Might as well legalize this, it will get rid of the 'agents' and make the middlemen directly responsible for the welfare of the poor class instead of some red-taped govt. policy. On the security perspective, bribery is an easy way to spread fake currency notes.Chimyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299674728401995496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-62269456102813458362011-04-26T22:31:25.936-07:002011-04-26T22:31:25.936-07:00I didn't remove them! I'll ask him why he ...I didn't remove them! I'll ask him why he did..Manasi Dhanorkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01918455940204140971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-17132273742023258242011-04-26T22:26:59.666-07:002011-04-26T22:26:59.666-07:00Why were the comments removed?Why were the comments removed?khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013402683105087621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-72360143184800939792011-04-26T07:28:29.548-07:002011-04-26T07:28:29.548-07:00I don't agree with Chinmay. I don't think ...I don't agree with Chinmay. I don't think we need to legalize bribes. Licenses would work far better. If the hawkers are provided with licenses, there would be no need to pay haftas to the RPF officials. Legalizing corruption is an altogether different topic.Manasi Dhanorkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01918455940204140971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-53062625812457195012011-04-26T00:05:11.882-07:002011-04-26T00:05:11.882-07:00You kinda lost me there. My fault though.
So what...You kinda lost me there. My fault though.<br /><br />So what I got so far is that essentially we split the bribe in two, one we pay to the guy who is supposed to do our work and one we pay to another guy who makes sure our work is done by guy one.<br /><br />In some cases, these two guys can be the same?<br /><br />Film stars get away without paying money because they don't declare the money/assets they earned/own. I don't see how this is connected.<br /><br />Also, I go back to my earlier comment. Legalizing it is just a way to call it an extra 'fee'. There will be a fee beyond this fee. I mean if I am paying a bribe to get a connection along with 100 others, there will be 10 people who will pay a bribe over this bribe to get it even faster. There is demand, there are people to take advantage of this.<br /><br />I agree that chaos will lead to order. But that is till some other system tries to creep in. Then a new cycle.<br /><br />Come to think of it, government has more to lose by 'legalizing' bribes. Specially the small fishes that occupy most of the windows that serve folks.<br /><br />Just my two cents.khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013402683105087621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-33810970224310123832011-04-25T07:34:36.232-07:002011-04-25T07:34:36.232-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chimyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299674728401995496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-40281912309654543802011-04-24T23:25:33.349-07:002011-04-24T23:25:33.349-07:00Interesting post. And as I read it in the previous...Interesting post. And as I read it in the previous comment, I would like to understand legalizing corruption in a better way.<br /><br />From what my limited knowledge so far tells me, it would be like taking an additional fee while dealing with the government. But then would the officials be satisfied? It is an official amount, they want more and to use a word from the title of this post, Greed would step in. So there will be a bribe beyond the legalized corruption.<br /><br />Can we truly stop it?khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013402683105087621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-35322864916759424192011-04-23T05:35:30.022-07:002011-04-23T05:35:30.022-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chimyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299674728401995496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-48701173159011910032011-04-22T18:55:52.940-07:002011-04-22T18:55:52.940-07:00Wow! That was a very informative read, Manasi. It&...Wow! That was a very informative read, Manasi. It's very interesting to see how the entire bureaucracy (which is extremely corrupt)works in a huge metropolitan area like Mumbai. To get the system straight-forward, it will take strong political will & a transformation will take a long time, I guess! <br /><br />Keep up the good work!Renjithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16706180761584839386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4084249946014888400.post-30575633962786997122011-04-22T10:25:13.112-07:002011-04-22T10:25:13.112-07:00hey really liked the post ! its so precise, yet on...hey really liked the post ! its so precise, yet one doesn't lose interest !Rujutahttp://myriadofexpressions.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com